Thursday, May 22, 2008
Any news about Paul Battershill?
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... former Chief of Police Battershill does get to see the findings. He got them May 8 and is given 10 business days in which to respond, or to request a public inquiry. So May 8 + 10 business days means that by May 21, we may hear the first reported words from Paul Battershill since this disturbing affair began.
That's what I wrote a few days ago.
The deadline has passed. It passed yesterday, according to my reckoning.
Has anybody seen Paul Battershill?
Has anybody heard from him? Does anybody know what he'll do next??
I did scan all BC's CanWest dailies and saw nothing about VicPD-gate. Although ... how surprising is that.
Tips will be much appreciated.
- BC Mary
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Many thanks to Anonymous 9:51 for the following welcome tip:
Tethered teen gets $60000 in lawsuit
Look at the suspended Chief Battershill, facing discipline and still get his ..... The award was for excessive use of force after the teen was detained and ...
www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/ news/story.html?id=d9ab89d4-711c-4518-9053-5711ec258ab7
And here's exactly the same URL which will take you to the original story in Times Colonist.
www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/ news/story.html?id=d9ab89d4-711c-4518-9053-5711ec258ab7
Suddenly I do have the feeling that somebody with a poor grasp of the language has mischief in mind and I don't like it.
But I did like the ONE item I found dated 2004 about Chief Constable Paul Battershill of Victoria Police Department who "recognized the value" of a 4-day "Youth Combating Intolerance Camp" and brought in 4 other police, 7 teachers, 5 Vancouver Island School Districts, and 77 young teens about the same age as Reena Virk who was murdered nearby. The kids heard from speakers such as the mother of Reena Virk and from other perspectives. Kids then went back to their schools to develop action plans to improve tolerance levels in their own communities.
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About 2 hours later, here's that same story again with a new phony lead-in:
Tethered teen gets $60000 in lawsuit
She stood up for all the victims of Police brutality. Look at the suspended Chief Battershill, facing discipline and still get [same grammar error. - BC Mary] his fat salary since November. ...
www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/ news/story.html?id=d9ab89d4-711c-4518-9053-5711ec258ab7
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Please tell me what you think of this? Who could do this? And why would they do it?
- BC Mary.
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Later there was a 3rd revision to that false lead-in. Each time it carried a stronger denunciation of Victoria's former Chief of Police. The article it introduced had nothing to do with the former Chief of Police. The false lead-in still contains a grammar error plus insults which, at very least, make it obvious that it wasn't written by a professional journalist. So how did it happen?
Could this be the answer?
Anonymous wrote:
I don't think this is a change. It has been there for some time. What I am suggesting is what you read didn't really exist except as a coding error. If you read some of the Google new releases they have a part from what is under a picture, part from what is the start of the story and parts from other things that are on the page.
Their bot doesn't read a page the way we read a page. If you were to post you pages using code instead of the blog system that is already set up you could see these differences. I tried and am still trying Dreamweaver but it is a lot harder to use than something like frontpage where I can ignore the code part of the page. If the google bot is reading the code then it's going to go to line (words) that the code tells it to.
For all we know the kid sending in the comment knew enough to put the coding words at the front of his comment so it would be kicked up to the top of the page.
BC Mary said: So ... may I ask, at this point ... do you think Paul Battershill is getting fair treatment this time around??
I don't think he is being treated any different than Jamie Graham the ex-VPD chief who got in a fight with the police commission or the West Van Chief that was let go because some cops were drinking while in uniform. Letting a police chief go always seems like it is far more political than anything else, and most likely it is, but at a City Hall level.
Which is not to say I would trust the Government of BC on anything.
That he is being paid while on leave is a nice thing that a couple of police chiefs have not gotten but had to sue to get. I think the Edmonton one and the West Van had to sue. Every Chief understands that when he becomes Chief he is far less a cop than a political punching bag that will most likely be fired when the honeymoon is over. That's why most other police departments and security groups don't worry too much about hiring a fired police Chief.
It always comes down to what did he do that caused everybody to react. Messing about or leaving a shooting target on a police commissioner's desk aren't up there too high as things to worry about. Taking the pension fund or putting other cops at risk are.
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Thank you, Anonymous. You've given us a lot to think about. - BC Mary.
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May 26,
Anonymous has left a new comment on "Any news about Paul Battershill?":
Most of the police community knows that the RCMP report was favourable to him and they didn't find much to be concerned about. He'll move on and do other things, he's already moved to Kelowna we hear. The sad part is why did it happen and how it was handled. If there was politics behind it that is really bad.
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Very likely, CanWest newspapers in B.C. will be silent on the subject of why Victoria's Chief Constable was put out of office. Victoria's Mayor Alan Lowe has said all along that the RCMP report will not be made public unless Paul Battershill chooses to have a public inquiry. So far as we know, he has not made that request. But there must be many other people in B.C., like myself, who will not forget this. Comments, tips, questions, thoughts are very much appreciated. - BC Mary.
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... former Chief of Police Battershill does get to see the findings. He got them May 8 and is given 10 business days in which to respond, or to request a public inquiry. So May 8 + 10 business days means that by May 21, we may hear the first reported words from Paul Battershill since this disturbing affair began.
That's what I wrote a few days ago.
The deadline has passed. It passed yesterday, according to my reckoning.
Has anybody seen Paul Battershill?
Has anybody heard from him? Does anybody know what he'll do next??
I did scan all BC's CanWest dailies and saw nothing about VicPD-gate. Although ... how surprising is that.
Tips will be much appreciated.
- BC Mary
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Many thanks to Anonymous 9:51 for the following welcome tip:
Tethered teen gets $60000 in lawsuit
Look at the suspended Chief Battershill, facing discipline and still get his ..... The award was for excessive use of force after the teen was detained and ...
www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/ news/story.html?id=d9ab89d4-711c-4518-9053-5711ec258ab7
And here's exactly the same URL which will take you to the original story in Times Colonist.
www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/ news/story.html?id=d9ab89d4-711c-4518-9053-5711ec258ab7
Suddenly I do have the feeling that somebody with a poor grasp of the language has mischief in mind and I don't like it.
But I did like the ONE item I found dated 2004 about Chief Constable Paul Battershill of Victoria Police Department who "recognized the value" of a 4-day "Youth Combating Intolerance Camp" and brought in 4 other police, 7 teachers, 5 Vancouver Island School Districts, and 77 young teens about the same age as Reena Virk who was murdered nearby. The kids heard from speakers such as the mother of Reena Virk and from other perspectives. Kids then went back to their schools to develop action plans to improve tolerance levels in their own communities.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
About 2 hours later, here's that same story again with a new phony lead-in:
Tethered teen gets $60000 in lawsuit
She stood up for all the victims of Police brutality. Look at the suspended Chief Battershill, facing discipline and still get [same grammar error. - BC Mary] his fat salary since November. ...
www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/ news/story.html?id=d9ab89d4-711c-4518-9053-5711ec258ab7
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Please tell me what you think of this? Who could do this? And why would they do it?
- BC Mary.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Later there was a 3rd revision to that false lead-in. Each time it carried a stronger denunciation of Victoria's former Chief of Police. The article it introduced had nothing to do with the former Chief of Police. The false lead-in still contains a grammar error plus insults which, at very least, make it obvious that it wasn't written by a professional journalist. So how did it happen?
Could this be the answer?
Anonymous wrote:
I don't think this is a change. It has been there for some time. What I am suggesting is what you read didn't really exist except as a coding error. If you read some of the Google new releases they have a part from what is under a picture, part from what is the start of the story and parts from other things that are on the page.
Their bot doesn't read a page the way we read a page. If you were to post you pages using code instead of the blog system that is already set up you could see these differences. I tried and am still trying Dreamweaver but it is a lot harder to use than something like frontpage where I can ignore the code part of the page. If the google bot is reading the code then it's going to go to line (words) that the code tells it to.
For all we know the kid sending in the comment knew enough to put the coding words at the front of his comment so it would be kicked up to the top of the page.
BC Mary said: So ... may I ask, at this point ... do you think Paul Battershill is getting fair treatment this time around??
I don't think he is being treated any different than Jamie Graham the ex-VPD chief who got in a fight with the police commission or the West Van Chief that was let go because some cops were drinking while in uniform. Letting a police chief go always seems like it is far more political than anything else, and most likely it is, but at a City Hall level.
Which is not to say I would trust the Government of BC on anything.
That he is being paid while on leave is a nice thing that a couple of police chiefs have not gotten but had to sue to get. I think the Edmonton one and the West Van had to sue. Every Chief understands that when he becomes Chief he is far less a cop than a political punching bag that will most likely be fired when the honeymoon is over. That's why most other police departments and security groups don't worry too much about hiring a fired police Chief.
It always comes down to what did he do that caused everybody to react. Messing about or leaving a shooting target on a police commissioner's desk aren't up there too high as things to worry about. Taking the pension fund or putting other cops at risk are.
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Thank you, Anonymous. You've given us a lot to think about. - BC Mary.
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May 26,
Anonymous has left a new comment on "Any news about Paul Battershill?":
Most of the police community knows that the RCMP report was favourable to him and they didn't find much to be concerned about. He'll move on and do other things, he's already moved to Kelowna we hear. The sad part is why did it happen and how it was handled. If there was politics behind it that is really bad.
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Very likely, CanWest newspapers in B.C. will be silent on the subject of why Victoria's Chief Constable was put out of office. Victoria's Mayor Alan Lowe has said all along that the RCMP report will not be made public unless Paul Battershill chooses to have a public inquiry. So far as we know, he has not made that request. But there must be many other people in B.C., like myself, who will not forget this. Comments, tips, questions, thoughts are very much appreciated. - BC Mary.
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We heard he was in Vancouver last week. They gave him an award for bravery from a shooting he was in.
# posted by 
: May 22, 2008 at 9:51 a.m.
: May 22, 2008 at 9:51 a.m.
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Thanks for that good news, 9:51.
I'll see if Google will treat people more kindly than CanWest does.
I'll post it if I find it.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for that good news, 9:51.
I'll see if Google will treat people more kindly than CanWest does.
I'll post it if I find it.
Thanks again.
.
Mary, have you seen your doctor? Have you had a chest X-ray.
A mother (not yours).
Something bizarre is going on and it is curious & rather disconcerting as to whom this might be.
A mother (not yours).
Something bizarre is going on and it is curious & rather disconcerting as to whom this might be.
# posted by : May 22, 2008 at 2:41 p.m.
: May 22, 2008 at 2:41 p.m.
Hope you're OK Mary. We need you (but not until you're feeling better of course).
# posted by : May 23, 2008 at 1:06 p.m.
: May 23, 2008 at 1:06 p.m.
Hi Mary,
Please take time for yourself and your health, as there always will be (unfortunately) more Campbell scandals right around the corner. A healthy Mary is a strong, intelligent, and passionate Mary that cares about British Columbia. Take care.
Picture this:
When this is all send and done, I can see you receiving an award for people that have proven to love their province, the “citizen of the decade” in the “citizen journalistic category” and Vaughn, kieth and the bunch are sitting in the front row as you receive your award. They are all applauding but with slightly furrowed eye brows as they know they should have tried just a little harder. Now they must take stock and you are kicking your heels as you leave, stage right.
Please take time for yourself and your health, as there always will be (unfortunately) more Campbell scandals right around the corner. A healthy Mary is a strong, intelligent, and passionate Mary that cares about British Columbia. Take care.
Picture this:
When this is all send and done, I can see you receiving an award for people that have proven to love their province, the “citizen of the decade” in the “citizen journalistic category” and Vaughn, kieth and the bunch are sitting in the front row as you receive your award. They are all applauding but with slightly furrowed eye brows as they know they should have tried just a little harder. Now they must take stock and you are kicking your heels as you leave, stage right.
# posted by : May 25, 2008 at 1:00 p.m.
: May 25, 2008 at 1:00 p.m.
Mary, when you get back read The Tyee.ca July 1, 2005 story on Sean Holman & his associates Young Liberals at U Vic. Basi et al.
Wonder what he knows about BC Rail?
Sean has a good story posted about the Liberals golf tourney next week.
Fascinating list of names--wish it could be posted on your site.
Take care. Summer is coming and we will all feel better, especially after July 1 when we all start walking or taking the bus or staying home! Oh yes, the $100 climate rebate cheque will be coming. Families with children under 18 have to apply separately.
Wonder what he knows about BC Rail?
Sean has a good story posted about the Liberals golf tourney next week.
Fascinating list of names--wish it could be posted on your site.
Take care. Summer is coming and we will all feel better, especially after July 1 when we all start walking or taking the bus or staying home! Oh yes, the $100 climate rebate cheque will be coming. Families with children under 18 have to apply separately.
# posted by : May 25, 2008 at 2:24 p.m.
: May 25, 2008 at 2:24 p.m.
Most of the police community knows that the RCMP report was favourable to him and they didn't find much to be concerned about. He'll move on and do other things, he's already moved to Kelowna we hear. The sad part is why did it happen and how it was handled. If there was politics behind it that is really bad.
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# posted by : May 25, 2008 at 8:29 p.m.
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We heard he was in Vancouver last week. They gave him an award for bravery from a shooting he was in.
May 22, 2008
And I said I'd post anything that Google could tell me. So I typed in "Paul Battershill + bravery award" and oddly enough, there were only 13 hits. The first three had nothing about Battershill's award. I know, I know -- maybe the search engine picked up "award" or maybe they just picked up every Paul or every award, just not the right ones.