Wednesday, January 06, 2010
Plaintiff submits that there has been a widespread campaign by agents or employees of the Ministry of Forests and/or the Attorney General's department
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It's absolutely OK if you laugh when I tell you that this evening, I'm working in semi-darkness because the Electricians Three have knocked off from re-wiring the 150-year-old Heritage House I live in. Re-wiring is a co-operative skill which, I learned today, requires exactitude in spoken English, a fine strong voice "Can you hear me, Ernie?" spoken into a small hole in the wall, to which the response is a series of taps from the attic. And cool nerves. Nobody mentions shock. Ernie didn't even flinch when he descended from the attic unexpectedly into my bathroom with me still in it.
Anyhoo ... at 5:00 PM ... with the job half done, Electricians Three went home leaving certain parts of the household unlit. Including my part. And I so much want to share with you, the thing I was reading this afternoon in the sunshine. I'm going to try anyway, hoping I don't make too many errors ...
I can't thank Chris Budgell enough, for providing the URL to the "Reasons for Judgment" written by Justice W.G. Parrett of Prince George, dated April 1998. It's one of those documents which demonstrates that the law in the hands of a gifted judge is a tool which carves out images of such reason and beauty, we feel the world will be put right once the document is passed to the public.
Chris actually was recommending a book titled "Politics and the Rule of Law" but he added that, "to better understand what the case meant, it is worth having a look at the lengthy Supreme Court judgment that came down in July 1999.
"I recommend reading at least the Table of Contents and the final section - about damages. Note that no quantum of punitive damages is mentioned.
"One lawyer commented to me that the plaintiff's ultimate success in this case was attributable in part to the fact it was heard by a judge in Prince George, where the community doesn't appreciate being screwed by bureaucrats from Victoria."
The trial of Carrier Lumber vs. Province of B.C. was very, very real stuff about forestry, mountain pine beetle, logging ingenuity, First Nations grievances, government bungling, and the U.S. Softwood Lumber treaty. The document starts off with the judge's admiration for the loggers (Carrier Lumber of Prince George) as well as the government (Ministry of Forests) for their efforts to salvage the dead or dying forests ... each meeting the other half way ... until an agreement in principle was somehow re-written ... the First Nations set up a road block ... the U.S. Softwood Lumber deal brought down more costs onto Carrier ... it's all there in Carrier Lumber vs. HMTQ in right of Province of British Columbia.
I must say that I didn't quite understand why Chris had given me this material to read, not until I got way, way into the "Reasons for Judgment". Suddenly, when I came to ...
7.0 THE EVIDENCE
7.1 ADVERSE INFERENCES
The Supreme Court Justice wrote these words. The high-pitched sounds of Electricians Three drilling, tapping, shouting seemed to fade away, as I read and began to understand why Chris had sent it ...
And so Justice Parrett continued, right to the end of his "Reasons for Judgment" to explain exactly how the government can not only be at fault but can be deliberately negligent when it suits their purposes. I would urge every citizen to turn off the TV and read this legal document.
The complete copy is yours to read, merely by clicking HERE.
- BC Mary.
It's absolutely OK if you laugh when I tell you that this evening, I'm working in semi-darkness because the Electricians Three have knocked off from re-wiring the 150-year-old Heritage House I live in. Re-wiring is a co-operative skill which, I learned today, requires exactitude in spoken English, a fine strong voice "Can you hear me, Ernie?" spoken into a small hole in the wall, to which the response is a series of taps from the attic. And cool nerves. Nobody mentions shock. Ernie didn't even flinch when he descended from the attic unexpectedly into my bathroom with me still in it.
Anyhoo ... at 5:00 PM ... with the job half done, Electricians Three went home leaving certain parts of the household unlit. Including my part. And I so much want to share with you, the thing I was reading this afternoon in the sunshine. I'm going to try anyway, hoping I don't make too many errors ...
I can't thank Chris Budgell enough, for providing the URL to the "Reasons for Judgment" written by Justice W.G. Parrett of Prince George, dated April 1998. It's one of those documents which demonstrates that the law in the hands of a gifted judge is a tool which carves out images of such reason and beauty, we feel the world will be put right once the document is passed to the public.
Chris actually was recommending a book titled "Politics and the Rule of Law" but he added that, "to better understand what the case meant, it is worth having a look at the lengthy Supreme Court judgment that came down in July 1999.
"I recommend reading at least the Table of Contents and the final section - about damages. Note that no quantum of punitive damages is mentioned.
"One lawyer commented to me that the plaintiff's ultimate success in this case was attributable in part to the fact it was heard by a judge in Prince George, where the community doesn't appreciate being screwed by bureaucrats from Victoria."
The trial of Carrier Lumber vs. Province of B.C. was very, very real stuff about forestry, mountain pine beetle, logging ingenuity, First Nations grievances, government bungling, and the U.S. Softwood Lumber treaty. The document starts off with the judge's admiration for the loggers (Carrier Lumber of Prince George) as well as the government (Ministry of Forests) for their efforts to salvage the dead or dying forests ... each meeting the other half way ... until an agreement in principle was somehow re-written ... the First Nations set up a road block ... the U.S. Softwood Lumber deal brought down more costs onto Carrier ... it's all there in Carrier Lumber vs. HMTQ in right of Province of British Columbia.
I must say that I didn't quite understand why Chris had given me this material to read, not until I got way, way into the "Reasons for Judgment". Suddenly, when I came to ...
7.0 THE EVIDENCE
7.1 ADVERSE INFERENCES
The Supreme Court Justice wrote these words. The high-pitched sounds of Electricians Three drilling, tapping, shouting seemed to fade away, as I read and began to understand why Chris had sent it ...
[120] The plaintiff in this case submits that there has been a widespread campaign by agents or employees of the Ministry of Forests and/or the Attorney General's Branch to prevent disclosure of relevant documents in this action. [121] This assertion by the plaintiff is resisted strenuously by the defendant who nevertheless concedes that substantial documentation that is both relevant and material to the issues in this case was not disclosed by the Crown until after the plaintiff had closed its case. [122] The circumstances giving rise to this situation are quite extraordinary and led to rulings on October 30, 1997 and December 12, 1997 which were themselves extraordinary and resulted in a significant change of course in the conduct of this trial. [123] Regrettably it is necessary in dealing with the plaintiff's submissions on this point to canvass the circumstances under which those rulings were made and this trial eventually reconvened to run its altered course. [124] On October 2, 1997, the plaintiff closed its case in this action and the defence began its case with the calling of its first witness Hartley Lewis. On October 16, 1997, after an application made necessary because of the serious illness of an important defence witness the trial was adjourned. [125] On that same date by what amounts to pure coincidence, the plaintiff's Woodland's manager encountered a member of the Ulkatcho Indian Band and during the course of their discussion, the subject of this trial came up. As a result of their discussions a file and a number of documents were produced to him which originated with or had been delivered to the Crown. The documents had not been disclosed and are material and relevant to the issues in this trial. One of those documents was a letter signed by the Minister of Forests. [126] Mr. Byl, on behalf of the plaintiff, returned a motion in which he sought to have the defence struck. This application was adjourned on October 30, 1997, on conditions, and dismissed eventually on December 12, 1997. [127] The resulting orders and conditions permitted the plaintiff during an adjournment of this trial to effectively investigate the circumstances surrounding the non-disclosure by the Crown of quite literally hundreds, if not thousands, of material documents. [128] The orders of October 30, 1997, directed the cross- examination of a number of Ministry officials who had sworn affidavits concerning the disclosure process, an additional order directing immediate production of all documents relevant to the First Nations blockades of the Henry's Crossing Bridge and access to the Beef Trail Area. A further order required the defendant to provide affidavits verifying their lists of documents. [129] On December 12, 1997, following further information being placed before the court and hearing further submissions the plaintiff's application was dismissed. In dismissing that application directions were given that any reasonable application by the plaintiff to try and deal with the situation would be entertained including reopening of the plaintiff's case, orders directing the Crown to recall witnesses, and any necessary amendments amongst others. The conduct of the defendant was characterized in that ruling in these words: It is conduct which has caused a major and important trial in these courts to be embarked upon and carried out by a plaintiff who is seeking justice in these courts on the basis of a massive failure to honour the requirements of proper disclosure. If not for the serious illness of an important defence witness, it is likely that this trial would have gone to its conclusion without the facts, as we know them, having become known. [130] With this background I turn to the basis from which the plaintiff now seeks to have this court draw inferences adverse to the defendant. [131] In the weeks immediately preceding the commencement of this trial the plaintiff brought a number of motions related to the production of documents. It was a central theme to those applications that proper and required disclosure had not been made by the Crown. If there was any doubt concerning the position of the plaintiff it was laid to rest in their opening at this trial. In that opening the following passage is found: It is a theme in this case that documents in the possession or control of the Crown in respect to this issue have been produced reluctantly, under Court Order, and in some cases, not at all. The existence of such documents can be inferred from evidence that will be put forward in this trial. The Crown has, unfortunately, chosen to defend its position in part through the suppression of evidence. In doing this, it has breached its discovery obligations under Rule 26 of the Rules of Court, two court orders, and the terms of the Document Disposal Act. Carrier will argue that where such documents must reasonably exist, but have not been produced, such as Executive Minutes or Executive Briefing packages, the Court should rule adversely against the Crown, and find, on the basis of well-established law as set out in Barnes v. Union Steamship that such documents, if produced, would prove the Plaintiff's contention. [132] It is also significant that throughout this trial counsel for the plaintiff maintained this theme raising it with numerous witnesses. Throughout much of the period from the commencement of the trial until its adjournment on October 16, 1997, Ministry officials who were presumably knowledgeable concerning the events and, who in some cases authored or assisted in the drafting of some of those documents were present in the courtroom. This background makes the events which occurred following the adjournment on October 16, 1997, even more difficult to understand and accept. [133] In this action the defendant has delivered a list of documents, an expanded list of documents and what have been designated as the second through the twenty-third supplemental lists of documents. Those beginning with the fifteenth list were all delivered after the close of the plaintiff's case and after the adjournment of this trial on October 16, 1997. Those documents list in excess of 2,000 documents which were not previously disclosed by the Crown. [134] The way in which document disclosure occurred in this case is, as already described, quite extraordinary but the issue does not end there. The plaintiff maintains in its final submissions that what the evidence at this trial discloses is that despite all of the energy put into pursuing those issues at trial, despite the events that occurred with respect to document disclosure, despite the importance placed on the issue by the Court, and the orders that were made, document disclosure remains incomplete and demonstrably so. [135] The plaintiff's final submission focussed on four specific classes of documents which, whatever the final outcome, were material to the issues before the court. Those four classes of documents are: a) the Constitutional documents; b) the Regional A 20022 file; c) the Regional Nemiah file; and d) the Regional Ulkatcho file. [136] A measure of the plaintiff's concern about disclosure issues can be found in the fact that on the closing day of the first phase of the trial, the day it was adjourned as a result of Mr. Carlson's health problems, the plaintiff tendered Exhibit 80 at the trial. This volume of documents was produced and used in the cross-examination of Ron Reeves, the former District Manager for the Ministry of Forests in the area. The purpose of the exercise was to demonstrate on the basis of some documents that had been produced that nine separate meetings had taken place between Ministers of the Crown and various First Nations groups at various times during the crucial time period between August 2, 1989 and June 3, 1992. The proposition being advanced was that documentation with respect to these crucial meetings must exist yet had not been produced. [137] Regrettably this case is replete with examples which serve to highlight in sometimes vivid terms the failure of the defendant [BC Ministry of Forests] in this case to properly honour their obligations to disclose. It is not useful or practical to catalogue in detail those failures, but it is useful by way of example to demonstrate the scope and nature of them ...
And so Justice Parrett continued, right to the end of his "Reasons for Judgment" to explain exactly how the government can not only be at fault but can be deliberately negligent when it suits their purposes. I would urge every citizen to turn off the TV and read this legal document.
The complete copy is yours to read, merely by clicking HERE.
- BC Mary.
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Chris Budgell has left a new comment:
I never read the entire Carrier Lumber case judgment myself. It was Roberta Reader's "Politics and the Rule of Law" that inspired me because it so clearly and emphatically talks about responsibility and accountability.
I don't believe anyone faced criminal charges as a result of the Carrier civil action, but criminal liability is an issue that Ms. Reader addressed.
Another document that may be of some interest is one I put before the OIPC in my current FOI action (to which the Ministry of A.G. is the respondent). It is an article by Allan Hutchinson that appeared in the Osgoode Hall Law Journal in 2008:
http://ohlj.ca/english/documents/03-Hutchinson.pdf
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There are two copies of POLITICS AND THE RULE OF LAW (185 pages) by Roberta Reader in the Library of the Ministry of Forests.
The Call Number on them is
634.909711 BCMF A 2000 MR 11.
Chris Budgell has left a new comment:
I never read the entire Carrier Lumber case judgment myself. It was Roberta Reader's "Politics and the Rule of Law" that inspired me because it so clearly and emphatically talks about responsibility and accountability.
I don't believe anyone faced criminal charges as a result of the Carrier civil action, but criminal liability is an issue that Ms. Reader addressed.
Another document that may be of some interest is one I put before the OIPC in my current FOI action (to which the Ministry of A.G. is the respondent). It is an article by Allan Hutchinson that appeared in the Osgoode Hall Law Journal in 2008:
http://ohlj.ca/english/documents/03-Hutchinson.pdf
There are two copies of POLITICS AND THE RULE OF LAW (185 pages) by Roberta Reader in the Library of the Ministry of Forests.
The Call Number on them is
634.909711 BCMF A 2000 MR 11.
The Ministry of Forests Library is at:
851 Yates Street
Victoria, British Columbia,
CANADA V8W 1M1
Open: Monday-Friday, 8:00-4:30
Phone: (250) 387-3628
Fax: (250) 953-3079
E-mail: Forests.Library@gov.bc.ca
Mailing address:
BC Ministry of Forests & Range Library,
PO Box 9523, Stn Prov Gov,
Victoria, British Columbia,
CANADA V8W 9C2
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Wow.
This reads like part of a transcript from the Canada Line compensation case.
Government's Appeal goes forward this April, I think. Outrageous.
This is a great blog - hot embers of our democracy - hope it's very well read.
This reads like part of a transcript from the Canada Line compensation case.
Government's Appeal goes forward this April, I think. Outrageous.
This is a great blog - hot embers of our democracy - hope it's very well read.
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Very pleased that you like the "hot embers of our democracy",
I hope you come back often,
and that you pick a User Name? May I suggest Hot Embers?
Thanksm and Happy New Year.
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Very pleased that you like the "hot embers of our democracy",
I hope you come back often,
and that you pick a User Name? May I suggest Hot Embers?
Thanksm and Happy New Year.
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NOt only does it read like a Canada Line compensation case, it reads like Basi and Virk can claim that the government was deliberately negligent in attempting to and in deleting files/emails related to their case. One would hope that the entire case be heard in regards to the BC Rail Trial before the prosecutor files charges against all government persons and agencies involved in the massive attempt to destroy public records.
And, yes, Mary, when I find some time, it is my intention to read every word of the document.
Many thanks to you and Chris for your efforts. You have proven to me that Sharing is (indeed) good!
And, yes, Mary, when I find some time, it is my intention to read every word of the document.
Many thanks to you and Chris for your efforts. You have proven to me that Sharing is (indeed) good!
Great read Mary and Chris. Knowing that Carrier won its case seemed to be enough but the meat of the decision is great. Man what a long read.
SIG is right on the BVB case. Now if only we could get someone with a deep throat maybe we could get somewhere on the case.
SIG is right on the BVB case. Now if only we could get someone with a deep throat maybe we could get somewhere on the case.
I never read the entire Carrier Lumber case judgment myself. It was Roberta Reader's "Politics and the Rule of Law" that inspired me because it so clearly and emphatically talks about responsibility and accountability.
I don't believe anyone faced criminal charges as a result of the Carrier civil action, but criminal liability is an issue that Ms. Reader addressed.
Another document that may be of some interest is one I put before the OIPC in my current FOI action (to which the Ministry of A.G. is the respondent). It is an article by Allan Hutchinson that appeared in the Osgoode Hall Law Journal in 2008:
http://ohlj.ca/english/documents/03-Hutchinson.pdf
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I don't believe anyone faced criminal charges as a result of the Carrier civil action, but criminal liability is an issue that Ms. Reader addressed.
Another document that may be of some interest is one I put before the OIPC in my current FOI action (to which the Ministry of A.G. is the respondent). It is an article by Allan Hutchinson that appeared in the Osgoode Hall Law Journal in 2008:
http://ohlj.ca/english/documents/03-Hutchinson.pdf
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