Sunday, January 08, 2012
Talking frankly -- frankly, I tell you ... about BC Rail, wasted money, wasted opportunity, and oh yes: the wasted trial of Gordon M. Campbell, Christy Clark ... errr ... Basi, Virk & Basi:
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BC Mary says: Good comment by Iain Hunter, an old-fashioned journalist writing for an old-time newspaper. They are talking frankly -- frankly, I tell you ... about BC Rail, wasted money, wasted opportunity, and oh yes: the wasted trial ofGordon M. Campbell, Christy Clark ... errr, oops ... Basi, Virk & Basi:
By Iain Hunter
Times Colonist - 8 January 2012
Excerpt:
... The prime example is, of course, the one involving skullduggery reaching into ministerial offices when Clark was deputy premier - the B.C. Rail case which made it to court, but was so abruptly derailed.
These days, as on Shaw Cable's Voice of B.C., the premier says no public inquiry is needed because a couple of miscreants in ministerial offices "were found guilty" and pursuing the thing further would "throw good money after bad."
Then she spoils it, rather, by adding: "I don't know that there are any more answers to be found out there." Does she not consider that it's her job, now, to find out?
Does she really believe that the ministerial aides who pled guilty in a deal negotiated apparently by their lawyers and someone in government behind the back of the special prosecutor appointed to pursue the case through the courts that they "were found guilty?"
Does she think that costly trials of real import should be abandoned because justice is too expensive to be done, and just the easy ones, like those of the Stanley Cup hooligans who were caught on camera, should become a relentless public spectacle?
Doesn't she see that some of the "bad money" thrown away was the $6 million taxpayers provided for the legal costs of the two ministerial aides as part of the deal that ended the trial?
Clark appointed UBC president Stephen Toope to review the practice of indemnifying public servants charged with criminal and other offences. She says his report is "great" and will "make the process better."
Toope's appointment was pretty casual, given the millions his university receives from the government, but the report is thorough. I wonder if Clark saw this conclusion:
"What needs to be avoided is the indemnification of public servants in criminal cases that are not associated in any way with work."
Hasn't it always been the government's position that the two miscreants were acting alone, without the direction or knowledge of ministers?
Or was breach of trust and accepting bribes part of their job description? Would their legal expenses be covered if they joined a looting hockey mob? And would they get a conclusive trial, maybe on TV?
cruachan@shaw.ca
Read more:
http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Hockey+rioters+Rail+scandal/5963822/story.html#ixzz1it8gRmlX
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BC Mary hangs head, scuffs toe, and confesses: blaming my computer, I apologize for somehow pasting in the top half of that column, not the part I intended. Dang. It's good work on Iain Hunter's part and I really wanted more people to see it ... so would you please visit the URL (as below) and read the bottom half about Basi, Virk, Basi?:
http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Hockey+rioters+Rail+scandal/5963822/story.html#ixzz1it8gRmlX
and get Iain's well-shaped point-of-view on who did what to whom on the Basi, Virk, Basi file?
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Times Colonist may be a bit mixed up, too. They have a 2nd column under the same URL:
Hockey Rioters and BC Rail
http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Hockey+rioters+Rail+scandal/5963822/story.html
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Excellent comment cross-posted from "Chinese Sneakers" ...
Chinese Sneakers has left a new comment on your post "Talking frankly -- frankly, I tell you ... about B...":
This article is a pretty nice find, being as it's from the lame stream.
Do forgive me, though, if what i am about to write sounds a little skeptical about these well-paid stenographers, like Iain Hunter, who take money for years of saying nothing that matters, only to show up super late and to start making some big noise--mostly about somebody they don't like and want to get rid of.
No doubt Mr. Hunter's telling it like it is, partly; and for that, he should supported, finally.
To quibble, though. When he writes--
"Does she really believe that the ministerial aides who pled guilty in a deal negotiated apparently by their lawyers and someone in government 'behind the back of the special prosecutor' appointed to pursue the case through the courts that they "were found guilty?"
--i have to disagree that the basi/virk deal was done behind Berardino's back.
In fact, I would categorically assert that deal was done with Berardino's full participation, exactly in keeping with the rest of the charade of a legal process we call the basi/virk trial, and Mr. Hunter needs to keep that in mind when he starts assigning blame.
Let me be clear: It is certain that crispy was in on the robbery, at least the Roberts Bank Trunk Line sideshow part of it. Her trusty aide, eric "spidey" bornmann, has already stated for the record that she, crispy, was working with him, eric, to funnel some informations from her office, that of deputy premier's, to the dirty little fingers over at Pilot House, where Brian Keiran has also publicly admitted to passing certain confidential government informations onto to their clients, Washington Mutual, SFNM.
However, i am not about to dump the whole ball of wax onto crispy and call it day; which is what i suspect that patty k. is in the midst of trying to pull off right now. NO WAY, JOSE.
This robbery involved perps from far beyond the crispy circle of comers and we must not be persuaded by clever scribes to look away from them. To be frank, it is my firmest belief that crispy's circle was set up and let in to a second-tier play, as a form of distraction, one meant to be focused on a small branch of the railway, and thereby used to keep our eyes off the big play and their robbing us of the really big prize, namely--the rest of the assets of BCRail.
After the fact, when the cover up team came together around the Dohm, it included from the very beginning the oh-so-well-connected, Bill Berardino, who has since been totally immersed in all aspects of the trial. To even suggest that he was suddenly cut out of the loop in the final hours and unawares of what was taking place on his watch just defies belief. Maybe Mr. Hunter will do a little more research and get down to brass tacks, including the key role played by Mr.Berardino.
Anyway, thanks for keeping the flame lit, Mary.
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Another excellent comment from Anonymous:
Hurray for Chinese Sneakers! With a quick, short whack you exposed Iain Hunter for the revisionist that he is. The paint ain't even dry on the page yet.
Anyone who's paid even a modest amount of attention even just to the mainstream media stories (including those that ran in Hunter's own newspaper, the Times Revisionist) would know that Bernardino was outed as an inside fixer of the corrupt deal. The Keystone Cops stories that came out in the days after the dirty deed was done showed that clearly.
Iain Hunter knows that.
Bernardino and his well-connected ilk from the underbelly of BC's legal industry were caught out in the media on that little piece of skulduggery.
The question is -- why is Iain Hunter and the Times Colonist trying to put lipstick on the pig Bernardino? And why now?
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BC Mary says: Good comment by Iain Hunter, an old-fashioned journalist writing for an old-time newspaper. They are talking frankly -- frankly, I tell you ... about BC Rail, wasted money, wasted opportunity, and oh yes: the wasted trial of
By Iain Hunter
Times Colonist - 8 January 2012
Excerpt:
... The prime example is, of course, the one involving skullduggery reaching into ministerial offices when Clark was deputy premier - the B.C. Rail case which made it to court, but was so abruptly derailed.
These days, as on Shaw Cable's Voice of B.C., the premier says no public inquiry is needed because a couple of miscreants in ministerial offices "were found guilty" and pursuing the thing further would "throw good money after bad."
Then she spoils it, rather, by adding: "I don't know that there are any more answers to be found out there." Does she not consider that it's her job, now, to find out?
Does she really believe that the ministerial aides who pled guilty in a deal negotiated apparently by their lawyers and someone in government behind the back of the special prosecutor appointed to pursue the case through the courts that they "were found guilty?"
Does she think that costly trials of real import should be abandoned because justice is too expensive to be done, and just the easy ones, like those of the Stanley Cup hooligans who were caught on camera, should become a relentless public spectacle?
Doesn't she see that some of the "bad money" thrown away was the $6 million taxpayers provided for the legal costs of the two ministerial aides as part of the deal that ended the trial?
Clark appointed UBC president Stephen Toope to review the practice of indemnifying public servants charged with criminal and other offences. She says his report is "great" and will "make the process better."
Toope's appointment was pretty casual, given the millions his university receives from the government, but the report is thorough. I wonder if Clark saw this conclusion:
"What needs to be avoided is the indemnification of public servants in criminal cases that are not associated in any way with work."
Hasn't it always been the government's position that the two miscreants were acting alone, without the direction or knowledge of ministers?
Or was breach of trust and accepting bribes part of their job description? Would their legal expenses be covered if they joined a looting hockey mob? And would they get a conclusive trial, maybe on TV?
cruachan@shaw.ca
Read more:
http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Hockey+rioters+Rail+scandal/5963822/story.html#ixzz1it8gRmlX
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BC Mary hangs head, scuffs toe, and confesses: blaming my computer, I apologize for somehow pasting in the top half of that column, not the part I intended. Dang. It's good work on Iain Hunter's part and I really wanted more people to see it ... so would you please visit the URL (as below) and read the bottom half about Basi, Virk, Basi?:
http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Hockey+rioters+Rail+scandal/5963822/story.html#ixzz1it8gRmlX
and get Iain's well-shaped point-of-view on who did what to whom on the Basi, Virk, Basi file?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Times Colonist may be a bit mixed up, too. They have a 2nd column under the same URL:
Hockey Rioters and BC Rail
http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Hockey+rioters+Rail+scandal/5963822/story.html
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Excellent comment cross-posted from "Chinese Sneakers" ...
Chinese Sneakers has left a new comment on your post "Talking frankly -- frankly, I tell you ... about B...":
This article is a pretty nice find, being as it's from the lame stream.
Do forgive me, though, if what i am about to write sounds a little skeptical about these well-paid stenographers, like Iain Hunter, who take money for years of saying nothing that matters, only to show up super late and to start making some big noise--mostly about somebody they don't like and want to get rid of.
No doubt Mr. Hunter's telling it like it is, partly; and for that, he should supported, finally.
To quibble, though. When he writes--
"Does she really believe that the ministerial aides who pled guilty in a deal negotiated apparently by their lawyers and someone in government 'behind the back of the special prosecutor' appointed to pursue the case through the courts that they "were found guilty?"
--i have to disagree that the basi/virk deal was done behind Berardino's back.
In fact, I would categorically assert that deal was done with Berardino's full participation, exactly in keeping with the rest of the charade of a legal process we call the basi/virk trial, and Mr. Hunter needs to keep that in mind when he starts assigning blame.
Let me be clear: It is certain that crispy was in on the robbery, at least the Roberts Bank Trunk Line sideshow part of it. Her trusty aide, eric "spidey" bornmann, has already stated for the record that she, crispy, was working with him, eric, to funnel some informations from her office, that of deputy premier's, to the dirty little fingers over at Pilot House, where Brian Keiran has also publicly admitted to passing certain confidential government informations onto to their clients, Washington Mutual, SFNM.
However, i am not about to dump the whole ball of wax onto crispy and call it day; which is what i suspect that patty k. is in the midst of trying to pull off right now. NO WAY, JOSE.
This robbery involved perps from far beyond the crispy circle of comers and we must not be persuaded by clever scribes to look away from them. To be frank, it is my firmest belief that crispy's circle was set up and let in to a second-tier play, as a form of distraction, one meant to be focused on a small branch of the railway, and thereby used to keep our eyes off the big play and their robbing us of the really big prize, namely--the rest of the assets of BCRail.
After the fact, when the cover up team came together around the Dohm, it included from the very beginning the oh-so-well-connected, Bill Berardino, who has since been totally immersed in all aspects of the trial. To even suggest that he was suddenly cut out of the loop in the final hours and unawares of what was taking place on his watch just defies belief. Maybe Mr. Hunter will do a little more research and get down to brass tacks, including the key role played by Mr.Berardino.
Anyway, thanks for keeping the flame lit, Mary.
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Another excellent comment from Anonymous:
Hurray for Chinese Sneakers! With a quick, short whack you exposed Iain Hunter for the revisionist that he is. The paint ain't even dry on the page yet.
Anyone who's paid even a modest amount of attention even just to the mainstream media stories (including those that ran in Hunter's own newspaper, the Times Revisionist) would know that Bernardino was outed as an inside fixer of the corrupt deal. The Keystone Cops stories that came out in the days after the dirty deed was done showed that clearly.
Iain Hunter knows that.
Bernardino and his well-connected ilk from the underbelly of BC's legal industry were caught out in the media on that little piece of skulduggery.
The question is -- why is Iain Hunter and the Times Colonist trying to put lipstick on the pig Bernardino? And why now?
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This article is a pretty nice find, being as it's from the lame stream.
Do forgive me, though, if what i am about to write sounds a little skeptical about these well-paid stenographers, like Iain Hunter, who take money for years of saying nothing that matters, only to show up super late and to start making some big noise--mostly about somebody they don't like and want to get rid of.
No doubt Mr. Hunter's telling it like it is, partly; and for that, he should supported, finally.
To quibble, though. When he writes--
"Does she really believe that the ministerial aides who pled guilty in a deal negotiated apparently by their lawyers and someone in government 'behind the back of the special prosecutor' appointed to pursue the case through the courts that they "were found guilty?"
--i have to disagree that the basi/virk deal was done behind Berardino's back.
In fact, I would categorically assert that deal was done with Berardino's full participation, exactly in keeping with the rest of the charade of a legal process we call the basi/virk trial, and Mr. Hunter needs to keep that in mind when he starts assigning blame.
Let me be clear: It is certain that crispy was in on the robbery, at least the Roberts Bank Trunk Line sideshow part of it. Her trusty aide, eric "spidey" bornmann, has already stated for the record that she, crispy, was working with him, eric, to funnel some informations from her office, that of deputy premier's, to the dirty little fingers over at Pilot House, where Brian Keiran has also publicly admitted to passing certain confidential government informations onto to their clients, Washington Mutual, SFNM.
However, i am not about to dump the whole ball of wax onto crispy and call it day; which is what i suspect that patty k. is in the midst of trying to pull off right now. NO WAY, JOSE.
This robbery involved perps from far beyond the crispy circle of comers and we must not be persuaded by clever scribes to look away from them. To be frank, it is my firmest belief that crispy's circle was set up and let in to a second-tier play, as a form of distraction, one meant to be focused on a small branch of the railway, and thereby used to keep our eyes off the big play and their robbing us of the really big prize, namely--the rest of the assets of BCRail.
After the fact, when the cover up team came together around the Dohm, it included from the very beginning the oh-so-well-connected, Bill Berardino, who has since been totally immersed in all aspects of the trial. To even suggest that he was suddenly cut out of the loop in the final hours and unawares of what was taking place on his watch just defies belief. Maybe Mr. Hunter will do a little more research and get down to brass tacks, including the key role played by Mr.Berardino.
Anyway, thanks for keeping the flame lit, Mary.
Do forgive me, though, if what i am about to write sounds a little skeptical about these well-paid stenographers, like Iain Hunter, who take money for years of saying nothing that matters, only to show up super late and to start making some big noise--mostly about somebody they don't like and want to get rid of.
No doubt Mr. Hunter's telling it like it is, partly; and for that, he should supported, finally.
To quibble, though. When he writes--
"Does she really believe that the ministerial aides who pled guilty in a deal negotiated apparently by their lawyers and someone in government 'behind the back of the special prosecutor' appointed to pursue the case through the courts that they "were found guilty?"
--i have to disagree that the basi/virk deal was done behind Berardino's back.
In fact, I would categorically assert that deal was done with Berardino's full participation, exactly in keeping with the rest of the charade of a legal process we call the basi/virk trial, and Mr. Hunter needs to keep that in mind when he starts assigning blame.
Let me be clear: It is certain that crispy was in on the robbery, at least the Roberts Bank Trunk Line sideshow part of it. Her trusty aide, eric "spidey" bornmann, has already stated for the record that she, crispy, was working with him, eric, to funnel some informations from her office, that of deputy premier's, to the dirty little fingers over at Pilot House, where Brian Keiran has also publicly admitted to passing certain confidential government informations onto to their clients, Washington Mutual, SFNM.
However, i am not about to dump the whole ball of wax onto crispy and call it day; which is what i suspect that patty k. is in the midst of trying to pull off right now. NO WAY, JOSE.
This robbery involved perps from far beyond the crispy circle of comers and we must not be persuaded by clever scribes to look away from them. To be frank, it is my firmest belief that crispy's circle was set up and let in to a second-tier play, as a form of distraction, one meant to be focused on a small branch of the railway, and thereby used to keep our eyes off the big play and their robbing us of the really big prize, namely--the rest of the assets of BCRail.
After the fact, when the cover up team came together around the Dohm, it included from the very beginning the oh-so-well-connected, Bill Berardino, who has since been totally immersed in all aspects of the trial. To even suggest that he was suddenly cut out of the loop in the final hours and unawares of what was taking place on his watch just defies belief. Maybe Mr. Hunter will do a little more research and get down to brass tacks, including the key role played by Mr.Berardino.
Anyway, thanks for keeping the flame lit, Mary.
# posted by 
: January 8, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
: January 8, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
I'm always a little leery when mainstream writers actually do say something. I mean, it's good they do, did, but... why now? Could it be that there may an election? Could it be that the ones behind mainstream, you know, the movers and shakers who for all these years backed gordo and his corrupt bunch? I believe christy is done, and so now, somehow, they need to shake things up, get her out of there, put one of "theirs" back in? They have a job to do for their bought and paid for politicians and companies. Do you think? Don't trust any of them be it media, corps, Kinsella et. al. or the lyin libs. Follow the money, look behind the scenes.
# posted by : January 8, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
: January 8, 2012 at 1:28 p.m. 
Hurray for Chinese Sneakers! With a quick, short whack you exposed Iain Hunter for the revisionist that he is. The paint ain't even dry on the page yet.
Anyone who's paid even a modest amount of attention even just to the mainstream media stories (including those that ran in Hunter's own newspaper, the Times Revisionist) would know that Bernardino was outed as an inside fixer of the corrupt deal. The Keystone Cops stories that came out in the days after the dirty deed was done showed that clearly.
Iain Hunter knows that.
Bernardino and his well-connected ilk from the underbelly of BC's legal industry were caught out in the media on that little piece of skulduggery.
The question is -- why is Iain Hunter and the Times Colonist trying to put lipstick on the pig Bernardino? And why now?
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Anyone who's paid even a modest amount of attention even just to the mainstream media stories (including those that ran in Hunter's own newspaper, the Times Revisionist) would know that Bernardino was outed as an inside fixer of the corrupt deal. The Keystone Cops stories that came out in the days after the dirty deed was done showed that clearly.
Iain Hunter knows that.
Bernardino and his well-connected ilk from the underbelly of BC's legal industry were caught out in the media on that little piece of skulduggery.
The question is -- why is Iain Hunter and the Times Colonist trying to put lipstick on the pig Bernardino? And why now?
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