Tuesday, August 09, 2011

 

Basi Virk Basi $6million details expected Thursday in BC Supreme Court?

BC Mary needs help! Here are a few of the ledes in today's online newspapers. Today's. What's going on?? Is Big Media trying to be helpful by reviewing the BC Rail Political Corruption Trial? Like, prior to some new event??  Please, you tell me -- and note that some URLs are already "unavailable" for some reason ... : 

Regina Leader-Post:
http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Basi+Virk+from+Rail+bidder+Crown/5224787/story.html

Global Winnipeg:
http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/Ruling+allows+more+insight+into+Basi+Virk+legal+bills/5224778/story.html

Global Edmonton:
http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/world/Basi+Virk+from+Rail+bidder+Crown/5224787/story.html

etc.,

all (and undoubtedly more) running the same Vancouver-based story from long, long ago ... but datelined August 8, 2011.  See for yourself:

Basi, Virk got $50,000 from BC Rail bidder: Crown

 Ministers’ aides given NFL tickets, trips and meals, prosecutor says


By Neal Hall and Lori Culbert,
Vancouver Sun - August 8, 2011

Read more HERE

http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Basi+Virk+from+Rail+bidder+Crown/5224787/story.html#ixzz1UXaMoEji


Then, also, there's this, sorta like tucked away as an afterthought:

http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/world/Basi+Virk+Trial+Auditor+wants+tale+behind+payout/5224794/story.html

Basi-Virk Trial: Auditor wants tale behind $6m payout
Court expected to decide Thursday whether to submit data for audit

Tracy Sherlock,
Vancouver Sun: August 8, 2011
British Columbia Auditor General John Doyle

British Columbia Auditor General John Doyle
Photo Credit: BRUCE STOTESBURY, Canwest News Service


Auditor-general uses courts to get details in corruption case

B.C. auditor-general goes to court to get details of Basi-Virk defense costs

VANCOUVER - A decision is expected Thursday [that would be Thursday, August 11, 2011, ya think? - BC Mary] in the attempt by British Columbia’s auditor-general to get the details of the deal that saw the government pay $6 million in defence costs in the BC Rail political corruption trial.

On Tuesday [would that be August 9, 2011??], B.C. Supreme Court Justice Bruce Greyell reserved his decision in the case, which is a petition by Auditor-General John Doyle, who was represented in court by Vancouver lawyer Louis Zivot.

Doyle is seeking the information as part of his audit of the provincial government’s financial statements, which usually include an opinion on the statements, and which are normally released June 30. The case before the courts says that he cannot properly assess this year’s statements without the details of the $6-million settlement for former government aides Dave Basi and Bob Virk.

The auditor-general has formally requested the documents and has been trying to access the information for a long period of time, Zivot said.

The case initially included orders to obtain records held by government lawyer Richard Butler as well as documents held by Basi and Virk. However, Zivot said in court that the request for the documents held by the guilty pair would be adjourned, possibly until a later date.

The petition says Butler could not provide the information.

“Butler advised the office of the auditor-general that he could not comply with the request as the records and information sought were the subject of an agreement with the legal counsel for the respondents Basi and Virk that the entirety of their transactions and dealings was confidential,” read the petition.

{Snip} ...

The plea bargain came after government officials agreed to forgive $6 million in legal fees owed by the two men.


BC Mary says: But just a goldarn minute. "Tuesday August 9, 2011" hasn't happened yet. 

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http://www.metronews.ca/vancouver/local/article/938918--auditor-granted-look-at-bc-rail-trial-fees

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This "Food for thought" comment by Chinese Sneakers is cross-posted to stimulate discussion: 

C.S. writes:


I think that it's fairly safe to say that you, Mary, have happened upon a psy-op, or a counter-intelligence program, that wasn't executed properly.

This story about the judge and his ruling likely originated with the pab-lum boys, who coordinated with the other concerned parties, and then passed it through the imperceptible pipeline, to the post-media manipulators, who proceeded to run the propaganda piece TOO EARLY.

What pains me most is how this glitch shows how reliant we are for our news and information on the corrupted media whose hidden purpose is to provide cover for high-end robbery and to profit from our confusion and ignorance.

No reasonable mind should countenance such a thing taking place in a state that depends on the informed consent of its citizens; but, then again, we are obviously quite short on reasonable minds in this twilight for democracy.
 
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Comments:
So how the hell could he have reserved a decision if it's still the 8th? Was he in Thailand? China? Phillipines? Huh?

Just more of the same old same old. New day same BS. How corrupt is BC? Well we've taken over 1st spot from Quebec many years ago, I'd say around 2001 once Gordo got in.
 
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Vanc Supreme Court could this be it HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
IN RIGHT OF THE PROVINCE
OF BRITISH COLUMBIA

9 45 rm 32 VLC-S-H-101299
 
Hi Mary, Summertime I havent been so active, I check in here, I did a search re recent Court dealings, Did You now Leonard Krog went to Court this June to get the Documents and He succeeded.

" Leonard Krog, the Opposition Critic for the Attorney General, applies for an order granting him access to, including the entitlement to copies, of certain materials, including the Informations to Obtain the search warrants executed on December 28, 2003 in the investigation leading up to the trial in this matter, and to certain affidavits and other material, all filed during pre-trial applications (“Materials”). The Materials were released to certain media applicants earlier this year. "

and
The Applicant’s Position

[12] Mr. Krog submits the February Media Order does not restrict the media’s use of the Materials and there is no basis for restricting his use of the materials. Mr. Krog is a Member of the Legislative Assembly and his official role as Opposition Critic is to hold to account the Government and, in particular, the Attorney General. Mr. Krog says he should not be treated differently than the media applicants as there is no basis to conclude that his use of the Materials would cause harm or abuse to the administration of justice.

Soooo, if You go and read this Judgement I think You will seen that 13 Parties did not have a problem with releasing the Documents, why now are They saying the defendants do not want the documents released to Doyle ( I may be confused about this.
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/11/07/2011BCSC0711.htm
 
I just saw a brief report on this on Global BC.
Mike Farnworth commented saying pretty much anything we get is good for the public. I say we need to know it all. All the way to the top.
 
I'm reminded of a saying: "A lie will go round the world before the truth gets its pants on."

Yup, this is the corporate media doing their thing again, paving the way for some skulduggery to come soon from the government.

Probably getting ready to announce that they've slayed the BC Rail Scandal dragon by getting to the bottom of the $6 million payout to convicted felons, and (poof!) that's that. Problem addressed! Don't you worry about those guys in the murky background, shoveling billions out our back door, while the judicial coven watch in benign repose, and the NDs cower in nervous, confused silence.

Maybe this is the handiwork of BC's newly-minted Minister of Corporate Priorities. Gawd, can you believe that? Christy Clark creates a new ministerial position for Corporate Priorities??? Wait, surely that title has to be taken straight from Animal Farm, no?

I guess it's official now, the purpose of the BC government is to serve corporations.

I don't see any Minister for Citizen Priorities, do you?
 
It sure reads like The Twilight Zone, doesn't it, BC Mary?!

Here is a link from Metro News, and actually 'dated' today, August 9, 2011 - it may help clarify something midst all the confusion generated from Big Media's murky pond:

http://www.metronews.ca/vancouver/local/article/938918--auditor-granted-look-at-bc-rail-trial-fees
 
Thanks, all.

Thanks especially to E.M., who always finds something we need.

I'm working on half-speed too, these days, and your sharp eyes are much appreciated.

And yes ... wouldn't we love to see a Minister for Citizen Priorities!!!
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The Link you posted for the Leader is gotta be wrong. That story ran back in May 19, 2010, NOT AUG 8 2011!!!

http://www.curvecommunications.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Vancouver-Sun-May-19-2010.pdf

WHat is going on BC MAry?
 
no wunder they pulled the article. It is over a year old. NewsLeader must have SCREWED UP!


All the allegations were proven, when Basi and Virk, in exchange for no jail time, no legal fees, were permitted to be saved harmless so long as they plead guilty, which they did.

Come on Mary, give us some news, not some screw-up.

I dont know where the link you provied came from, becuase the W
 
I think that it's fairly safe to say that you, Mary, have happened upon a psy-op, or a counter-intelligence program, that wasn't executed properly.

This story about the judge and his ruling likely originated with the pab-lum boys, who coordinated with the other concerned parties, and then passed it through the imperceptible pipeline, to the post-media manipulators, who proceeded to run the propaganda piece TOO EARLY.

What pains me most is how this glitch shows how reliant we are for our news and information on the corrupted media whose hidden purpose is to provide cover for high-end robbery and to profit from our confusion and ignorance.

No reasonable mind should countenance such a thing taking place in a state that depends on the informed consent of its citizens; but, then again, we are obviously quite short on reasonable minds in this twilight for democracy.
 
To the Anonymous one, 9:00:

You giving BC Mary orders?

Can't help thinking you must've been struck by lightning ... the way your comment ended.
 
CKDA,

It was published as news of the day ... which, if you read my post, is why I said I needed help to understand w.t.f. is going on.

I think it wanders off into actual news of the day, toward the end, doesn't it?

This is why I thought readers should be aware of what seems ... seems! ... to be going on.
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“Butler advised the office of the auditor-general that he could not comply with the request as the records and information sought were the subject of an agreement with the legal counsel for the respondents Basi and Virk that the entirety of their transactions and dealings was confidential,”

Uh-huh, just like the BC Rail contracts are "confidential", as are the proceedings of the caucus meetings that Paul Nettleton told us about. And the "third party" status of Mr Kinsella in re his lobbying activities.

Since when is the public's business only a "confidential" matter?

Secrecy is a tool of a totalitarian state, not a democracy.

And we all know where the BCSC sits on this; with their back to the truth, and no interest in serving the public, only their political masters.

Disgusting as usual, disappointing as always. No doubt the Auditor-General will either lose his position for bucking the lie - or get promoted upstairs like Loukedelis into a "thanks for that fatter paycheque, I'll keep my toes in line next time" job.
 
Mary, it reminds me of that Movie, JFK, where news about the assisination was broadcast in New Zealand, which should not have been possible, since the papers were printed before the assiniation even occured, or something like that.

THis is too wierd, what the F is going on is right.

Did someone say Krog was granted an Order to get info back in June?

If so, did he ever get the info, or did the respondant try and block the order, as they have 15 days to decide to do?

Please advice

Thank you for listening to CKDA!
 
Christy Clark created a new ministerial position for Corporate Priorities alright.

And the person she hired to fill the post as the new deputy minister of corporate priorities, Athana Mentzelopoulos, was one of Christy Clark's bridesmaids.

I also notice that Christy Clark has just rewarded Craig James with a new job as Legislative Clerk.

His new job comes with a salary of $250,000 a year and is the top “non-partisan” staff position in the Legislature.

His new job starts next month right after he completes his mission of declaring that the HST is here to stay.

Does everyone remember his rejection of a recall petition because the acronyms HST and MLA put the word count over the allotted 200 words?

Declaring that the Liberals’ HST advocacy web site was not a violation of the Initiative Act, even though the RCMP thought it was?

Ruling that Fight HST could not use money raised for the petition to defend itself against a court challenge?

Allowing the Gordon Campbell government to have observers at the petition count, even though the government had failed to register as an opponent?

Firing deputy chief electoral officer Linda Johnson who had worked at Elections BC for 28 years?

Refusing to forward the successful petition to repeal the HST to the select standing committee until the judge ordered him to do so "forthwith"?

And now he's cashing in his loyalty rewards points.

A loyal servant of the current Campbell/Clark government.

Obviously the HST really isn't revenue neutral.

urgman
 
B I N G O CSO(Court Services Online) online June 30th 2011
VIRK, Bobby Singh
AUDITOR GENERAL OF BRITISH COLUMBIA v BUTLER, Richard

There is a 6.00 fee (I thought They stopped charging) This is under civil, the date file opended June 21/11-date last updated June 20/11. FILE # 114223 Supreme.Civil, Vancouver Law Courts.
note 4 other Files related to Bob Virk since 2007 which are small claims court. Civil, Vancouver Law Courts.
Will check again, but did not find anything under Basi.
For the 6$ fee-File number
Type of file
Date the file was opened
Registry location
Style of cause
Names of parties and counsel
List of filed documents
Appearance details
Terms of order
Caveat details
Also I used to be able to search (which I did for Bains for free, I could see all court appearance dates (for Basi and Virk, but now it says "NOTE: There is no ability to view court documents within the traffic/criminal e-Search service.

Please note that e-Search does not provide access to any of the following:

Criminal matters (Supreme)
 
CKDA,

How about asking Krog that question?

He is probably sunning himself in some idyllic location, but he does have good assistants who might answer with that information.
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I don't hold my hopes up that the Auditor Gen is for the people. If this is the same as the John Doyle who ran Carrington Financial in Australia, which offered various services including:
•Share purchase through Macquarie Equities

We all know of MacQuarie, Gordo and the lieberals buddies.
You want to hope, but the connections throughout is mind boggling.

But, we must keep going. A full public inquiry is the only way to get to the bottom of this corruption.
 
Also, Bruce Clarks Lawyer signed the Order, note the even though Messrs is involved in the Auditor Generals Applications,Butler,no mention of him in earlier Judgement related to Krogs App.

They are both dated June 30th,though Krogs app was for June 2nd. Off to Doctor, hope to find more earlier, maybe pay 6 bucks, lol. Not sure if there is any publication ban on this, ha ha ha. [59] When Mr. Basi was served with the materials in support of this application he communicated via e-mail of June 23, 2011, with counsel for the Attorney General expressing his surprise to hear through the media he was opposing attempts by the Auditor General to obtain information. He advised that he had signed the release and waiver of confidentiality form. He stated in that e-mail:

Please note I do NOT object to the "request for access of records and information" as expressly specified in the letter to me dated June 3, 2011.

[60] He advised he did not intend to attend the hearing of this application as in his view his attendance would be "moot".

That gave Me My answer, Basi was Surprised through the media of He objectiong.
 
Dear Mary, I almost fell off my chair and choked to death om my morning coffee I was laughing so spontaneously and hard at your response to anon.

I hope he is alright, 'cause if lightening didn't kill him, your response will.

Give the devil his due Mary, he keeps trying to feed us the PABlum even though no one gives him any credibility whatsoever.
 
I agree with Chinese Sneakers' entire comment. I tried to convey a similar view in my earlier comment here (i.e. that this revealed some duplicitous action soon to be deployed), but I couldn't put it across as succinctly as CS does.

Especially enjoyed:

BC is the land of "...corrupted media whose hidden purpose is to provide cover for high-end robbery and to profit from our confusion and ignorance."

INDEED

Now that's a more apt description of British Columbia today rather than the nauseating and embarrassing "best place on earth".
 
Anon
9 August, 2011 9:00 PM
pablum for anon
Why aren't We out on the streets to demand that OUR DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS BE REINSTATED!
DEMAND that OUR non-Justice (BCSC) system be investigated by an independent, made up of regular BC Citizens if possible?
 
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